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  1. Recap - Did VAR get it right in Arsenal win?published at 10:34 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Let's quickly take stock, before continuing this debate.

    This morning, we have been looking at Arsenal's dramatic win against West Ham that has implications at both ends of the Premier League table.

    The game - and perhaps this season's title race - was defined by a Hammers equaliser that was disallowed following VAR intervention - and there's been no shortage of debate on the call.

    Here's a look at everything we have looked at so far:

    We’ve also had plenty of your thoughts coming in. Keep getting in touch by clicking 'Get Involved' on the page.

  2. How the table stands - Arsenal, West Ham, Leeds & Forestpublished at 10:28 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Just how important was this result?

    Well, the outcome of Arsenal's dramatic 1-0 win at West Ham is that the Gunners have strengthened their grip on the Premier League title race and West Ham have been plunged deeper into relegation trouble, while the safety of two other teams was confirmed.

    All of this hinged on the result of one VAR decision.

    Mikel Arteta's league leaders now have a five-point cushion over second-placed Manchester City, who have three matches to play compared with Arsenal's two.

    Meanwhile, West Ham remain in 18th place, one point behind 17th-placed Tottenham, who have three matches remaining, compared to the Hammers' two, and a vastly superior goal difference.

    Spurs can move four points clear tonight with a win at home to Leeds United.

    Both Leeds, in 16th, and Nottingham Forest, in 15th, are now seven points clear of West Ham and safe from relegation following Sunday's results, which included a 1-1 draw for Forest at home to Newcastle United.

    Premier League table
  3. 'Magnitude of the game'published at 10:24 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Jay Bothroyd
    Former Premier League striker on BBC Radio 5 Live

    First and foremost, I just want to say that if this wasn't Arsenal and the magnitude of the game wasn't what it was, with West Ham being in a renegotiation battle and Arsenal being in the title charge, I don't think we'd be even having this conversation.

    Ultimately, it is a foul on David Raya.

    Arsenal use set-pieces and they score goals from them. They're one of the best. Every team does the same thing now. That's just the way the game goes.

    It was the right decision - it just took so long, but it took so long because of the magnitude of the game.

    Screen at London Stadium showing VAR decisionImage source, Getty Images
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    Get Involved - 'Foul on Raya completely irrelevant to the goal'published at 10:19 BST

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    Nobody is mentioning the fact that Raya managed to punt the ball, and it was then booted out of the box. The goal itself didn't even come from the corner, meaning the "foul" on Raya was completely irrelevant to the goal.

    Sam, Oldham

  5. Foul which has material impact on play will always be prioritisedpublished at 10:12 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Dale Johnson
    Football issues correspondent

    There have been many questions as to why the VAR chose to give the foul by Pablo on David Raya.

    What about Leandro Trossard on Pablo or Declan Rice on Crysencio Summerville?

    There was a lot going on, which is why the VAR, Darren England, needed over two minutes to assess everything.

    In these cases, unless another foul clearly comes first, the VAR will prioritise the offence which has a material impact on the play. In this incident, it was Raya's ability to claim or play the ball as he intended.

    Rice's hold on Summerville was a clear non-footballing action so could have been a penalty - but Pablo's foul on Raya came first.

    What about if there was a foul on an attacker before Raya was held?

    The goal would still need to be disallowed and a penalty awarded.

    The VAR could not play advantage off a penalty incident and ignore a subsequent foul on the goalkeeper.

    It is a bit like the Erling Haaland and Dominik Szoboszlai situation earlier this year. An advantage to Man City was played, but there was a foul by Haaland before the ball crossed the line.

    The goal had to be disallowed and play pulled back to the City free-kick, which would have been given but for the advantage.

    Erling Haaland and Dominik SzoboszlaiImage source, Getty Images
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    Get Involved - 'Give us a rugby-like VAR'published at 10:05 BST

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    Agree with Henry Winter, the whole reason we all called for VAR pre-2019 was because of how well it works in cricket & rugby. 5 minutes is a long time for fans in the stadium with no idea what's going on with no communication from the refs. Needs to change.

    Sam, Southampton

    Give us a rugby-like VAR. The supporters are treated like idiots compared to many sports that show these decisions on screen. Also makes the refs more accountable on the day.

    Barrie, Stoke Poges

    Henry Winter makes a good comment about VAR giving explanations as to the process but football isn’t like cricket, so much is based on interpretation and subjective. It would cause uproar to hear those discussions live, they try their best not to even release them afterwards!

    Dave, Cotswolds

  7. 'One time I actually think VAR did a good job'published at 10:01 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Wayne Rooney on The Wayne Rooney Show

    Chris Kavanagh reviews a VAR decisionImage source, Getty Images

    It's a clear foul. You're going to obviously get a lot of people saying they think it should have stood because it's controversial and probably all the [Manchester] City players, staff, fans are going to say it should have stood.

    And then you're going to get all the Tottenham fans, players, staff saying it shouldn't have stood and of course the Arsenal fans and stuff.

    But it's a clear foul. I think you can clearly see the arm crosses his face and it impacts him getting to the ball. So I think it's the right decision.

    It's the one time I actually think VAR has done a really good job in such an important game.

  8. 'Similar incidents weren't seen the same way'published at 09:58 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Thomas Hitzlsperger
    Former Aston Villa midfielder on BBC Radio 5 Live

    This particular incident, I agree, the goal shouldn't have stood and it didn't stand, so that's correct. The fact that Arsenal played this way all season and similar incidents weren't seen the same way, that makes it more complicated.

    I think it would have been a nice touch from Chris Kavanagh to say, goal disallowed, but we're giving a penalty. When you look at some of the Arsenal players, the way they're pulling West Ham players, I'd say that's a consolation.

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    Get Involved - 'Inconsistency from refs all season'published at 09:54 BST

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    If that’s a foul, Arsenal wouldn’t be top of the league right now. Feels reminiscent of the 2021 F1 finale where the rules are inexplicably changed to suit one side.

    Rich, Basingstoke

    It's a foul but it's bitter because of the inconsistency over physicality at corners all season - mainly by Arsenal players. Look at the photo; Trossard isn't even looking at the ball and he's attempting to pull down Pablo. That's a foul in itself, nevermind Rice wrestling Mavropanos.

    Sally

    Inconsistency from refs all season. Arsenal have made it a tactic. Some you win some you lose. This time they were lucky (again)

    John, Kent

  10. 'You won't get away with holding onto a goalkeeper's arm'published at 09:48 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Dale Johnson
    Football issues correspondent

    David Raya of Arsenal is fouled by Pablo of West Ham UnitedImage source, Getty Images

    Since Sunday even we've seen a lot of other examples floating around social media of potential fouls on a goalkeeper - where a goal has been allowed to stand.

    Crucially, Pablo's challenge on David Raya is not the same.

    Pablo has his arm fully across the goalkeeper, with his hand holding on to the opposite arm.

    This clearly limits Raya's ability to claim or play the ball and is markedly different - it is a clear case of impeding a goalkeeper.

    Perhaps the most direct example affected Arsenal three years ago. They had a goal disallowed against Leicester through VAR for Ben White holding the arm of Danny Ward as the goalkeeper was about to come out and attempt a punch.There have been several goals this season where an attacker has been in contact with a goalkeeper and VAR has stayed out of it, but not when an arm is being held in the act of trying to claim, play or catch the ball.

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    Get Involved - 'Foul that matters most is on Raya'published at 09:45 BST

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    I’ve watched the incident several times and yes there are multiple fouls in the box, but the foul that matters most as it incapacitated Raya from making a save has to be given. The wrestling in the box needs to stop we see it every week from every team !

    Darren, Southampton

    Darren Cann summed it up perfectly on MOTD; VAR have to judge what is the ‘material’ outcome of all the grappling in the box. Ultimately that was the foul on Raya, preventing him from making the save.

    Joshua, London

  12. 'Embarrassing for the Premier League and PGMOL'published at 09:42 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Henry Winter
    Football writer on BBC Radio 5 Live

    On players grappling in the box during corners...

    It is now down to the referees to be stronger on this.

    It is embarrassing for the Premier League and PGMOL [Professional Game Match Officials Limited], the referees union, effectively. They should address this and have more consistency.

  13. 'I would like more of the rugby and cricket style'published at 09:34 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Henry Winter
    Football writer on BBC Radio 5 Live

    It hasn't been the greatest of seasons in terms of quality, but what a dramatic end this has been to the end of the season.

    It was interesting listening to Darren Cann on Match of the Day about how you address all this grappling in the box. Ultimately, it was the right decision. Pablo did foul David Raya. It took four minutes 11 seconds to decide via VAR, but something has got to be done about the wrestling that we are seeing overall.

    It obviously took some time. I would like a bit more of the rugby and cricket style, explaining live what is going on, what the thought process is, and what the contact is between the official on the pitch and the official in the VAR box.

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    Get Involved - 'VAR doesn't work in football'published at 09:28 BST

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    The decision in yesterday’s game shows why VAR doesn’t work in football. The sad thing for West Ham is that if they’d have had different officials the goal would have stood. Therefore what is the point of it? Mistakes are made with or without VAR. Waste of time IMHO.

    Adam, Kent

    Independents agree it was the right decision, but as an Arsenal fan I would still scrap VAR. VAR is supposed to remove controversy, the last 24 hours has shown even when it gets it 100% right it is still being called controversial. Well done EFL for not taking up VAR!!

    Andy, Hungerford

    Refereeing is about opinions, so whether you are looking in real time or a VAR recording everyone's opinion is different.

    Colin, Maidstone

  15. PL Review: VAR decides title and relegation?published at 09:25 BST

    Whilst you're with us today, you can listen to the latest Football Daily show below.

    Former Premier League striker Clinton Morrison and the Telegraph’s Northern football writer Luke Edwards join Rick Edwards to analyse and debate the key talking points from the weekend.

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    Get Involvedpublished at 09:21 BST

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    Amazing that everyone keeps claiming the foul on Raya is what Arsenal have ‘been doing all season’ yet can’t provide examples, apart from the Bayindir challenge where he made a mess of a punch. And the grappling in the box happens in every game from every team, deal with it.

    Gav, Buckhurst Hill

    I’ve seen a few references on here to Saliba’s “foul” on Bayindir. This is based on a still image taken before the ball is played. There is no holding when Bayindir flaps at the ball. That is the difference there.

    Ben, Adelaide

    Losing my mind at Saliba v Bayindir keep getting mention. The still image makes it look like a hold but then when you actually watch the clip they are both jostling for space and there is no hold. You can’t keep saying something to hope it’ll become true.

    Luca

  17. 'Foul is clear and obvious'published at 09:16 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    John Murray
    BBC football correspondent on BBC Radio 5 Live

    It was a decision that was over four minutes long, but I feel that was justified. The timing that it took because of the size of the incident.

    I would say that the actual foul is clear and obvious. What's not clear and obvious are the other fouls when they happened and did they impact on the clear and obvious foul? That's how I'm seeing it.

    It felt like that was the toughest hurdle that Arsenal have got left, and they managed to get over it.

    The big screen showing a VAR check for a foul on Arsenal goalkeeper David RayaImage source, PA Media
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    Get Involved - 'VAR unpicks action far too much'published at 09:11 BST

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    Raya is in no mans land and gets lucky based on a split second frame. VAR unpicks the action far too much rather than in real time. Arsenal have scored goals similar to this and they have stood. The inconsistency will always be VARs defect.

    Louis, London

    Oh, would you look at this, it's Monday morning, it's the latest episode of "The Curse of the VAR". It's genuinely getting tedious. But the authorities have invested way too much in it for them to actually take the correct course of action, which is to scrap it entirely.

    Anton, Montpellier

    It looked a clear foul but everyone cries for consistency. This season this same thing has happened but the goal stood (Saliba v Bayindir in August). In isolation give the foul, but for consistency this season, give the goal. Either give both goals or give both as fouls.

    Anon, Scarborough

  19. 'It's killing the game'published at 09:08 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    Andy Payne OBE
    West Ham Supporters' Board Chair on BBC Radio 5 Live

    Jarrod Bowen of West Ham United looks onImage source, Getty Images

    I watched Jarrod Bowen talk about the fact that if you look at something long enough, you're going to find a problem.

    I've looked at it and there were at least two, if not three, Arsenal players bundling my standing place on the floor.

    This business in the Premier League, it's got to be stopped, it is just ridiculous and it's killing the game.

  20. Where's the consistency? - Bowenpublished at 09:04 BST

    West Ham 0-1 Arsenal

    West Ham captain Jarrod Bowen echoed his manager's comments about the lack of consistency in decision making, when deciding what is and is not a foul at set-pieces:

    "A real blow. We thought we'd done so well to get back in it and had it taken away from us.

    "When you look at the screen for five minutes you'll find something - a lot of grappling and a lot of holding. I'm sure if you look long enough you'll find something. Do I think it's the right decision? No.

    "Frustration. Where's the consistency? As a fan you don't want to celebrate a goal and then wait eight minutes and it's taken off you.

    "Corners are physical. The Premier League is physical. That's why everyone loves it. You have to expect contact at corners. If you give that you have to give all the holding calls in the world and that's not the way people want the game to go down.

    "I don't want to sound bitter but last week we had one with Tomas Soucek held at Brentford and we didn't get a penalty. But then you can't give one like that today."

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    'Where's the consistency?' - Bowen frustrated by VAR