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      <title>Feedback: Salford, Radio 5 live and Radio1 Breakfast</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Editor's note: This week Feedback visits programme makers in the BBC's new buildings in Salford. You can hear Feedback on Radio 4 on Fridays at 4.30pm. PMcD.  

 
   
 

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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>Roger Bolton</author>
      <dc:creator>Roger Bolton</dc:creator>
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    <p><em>Editor's note: This week Feedback visits programme makers in the BBC's new buildings in Salford. You can hear <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mf7zk">Feedback</a> on Radio 4 on Fridays at 4.30pm. PMcD. </em></p>

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    <p> "In Xanadu did  Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree".</p>
<p>And in Salford the BBC leadership did a similar thing.</p>
<p>On the banks of the Manchester ship canal has arisen another pleasure dome, the headquarters of  BBC North, now home to the BBC Philharmonic, BBC Sport, Radio 5 live, the Religion and Ethics department and much more, and soon to be the base for Radio 4's You and Yours programme.</p>
<p>Just across the canal  ITV is building its northern headquarters and independent producers are clustered around, hoping to catch commissioners over coffee.</p>
<p>The architectural merits of the buildings are for others to judge, but of the success of the rejuvenation of this once derelict area there can be no doubt. It rivals the Olympic site in Stratford, East London, in terms of transformation.</p>
<p>And for licence fee payers worried about the cost of the BBC's contribution to all this, land of course is rather cheaper there than in the middle of central London.
Most listeners and viewers, I suspect, could hardly care less where programmes are broadcast from.</p>
<p>What they care about is quality and cost.</p>
<p>I hope to explore the true costs of the BBC building projects in Salford and Portland Place at a later date, but what of the quality of programmes coming out of 5 live?
If the programmes sound no different, is that a compliment, or evidence of a missed opportunity?</p>
<p>Should the sound and content of the network be different now it is some 200 miles away from its former home?</p>
<p>With these questions in mind I went to Salford and, with some difficulty, because security is tight, gained entrance to the building on the first of whose five floors, 5 live is ensconced.</p>
<p>Once inside the building we were allowed to go anywhere and ask anyone anything. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ml0jf">You can listen to the show in full</a> on the webpage where you can hear also BBC Radio 1's Director of Programmes tell me what the new Radio 1 breakfast show will sound like now that Chris Moyles is leaving to play King Herod in Jesus Christ Superstar.</p>
<p>Typecasting?</p>
<p>Happy Listening,</p>
<p>Roger B.</p>
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<li>Listen again to this week's Feedback, get in touch with the programme, find out how to join the listener panel or subscribe to the podcast on the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">Feedback web page</a>.</li>
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      <title>Controller Andy Parfitt on Radio 1 and Asian Network</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Andy Parfitt, the Controller of Radio 1, is clearly devoted to his job. Why else would you agree to curl up in a sleeping bag on the floor of Chris Moyles' studio while the Breakfast King and his sidekick Comedy Dave try to stay awake for 51.5 hours in order to create a new world record for Red ...]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/entries/cc0215e6-dd35-34b4-93ba-b222c10e598b</link>
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      <author>Roger Bolton</author>
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    <br><br><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx</a><br><p>Andy Parfitt, the Controller of <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/">Radio 1</a>, is clearly devoted to his job. Why else would you agree to curl up in a sleeping bag on the floor of Chris Moyles' studio while the Breakfast King and his sidekick Comedy Dave try to stay awake for 51.5 hours in order to create <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chrismoyles/longestshow/">a new world record for Red Nose Day</a>?</p><p>As I am probably the same age as the grandparents of some Radio 1 listeners I clearly needed some help , so we recruited 17-year-old Jenny Dontenvile, 20-year-old Emma Corsham and 22-year-old John Adams to help me out. Here is part of our conversation:</p><!--#include virtual="/radio/ssitools/simple_emp/emp_v1.sssi?Network=radio4&Brand=blog&Media_ID=feedback35&Type=audio&width=600" --><p>Andy Parfitt is also head of the Asian Network which was seemingly sentenced to death last year by BBC management. Of course, as with the condemned, then reprieved, 6 Music, the audiences went up considerably as soon as sentence was passed. Nothing concentrates the mind of BBC radio listeners as the prospective death of their favourite network. So is the Asian network also to be reprieved in another BBC u-turn? (We've heard rumours).</p><p>Here is Andy Parfitt's reply.</p><!--#include virtual="/radio/ssitools/simple_emp/emp_v1.sssi?Network=radio4&Brand=blog&Media_ID=feedback36&Type=audio&width=600" --><p>By the way, next week, in the final Feedback of the present run, I'll be talking to the departing Chairman of the BBC Trust, Sir Michael Lyons. If you have any questions that you would like me to ask him, please let me know asap.</p><p><em>Roger Bolton is presenter of Feedback</em></p><ul>
<li>Listen again to this week's Feedback, produced by Karen Pirie, get in touch with Feedback, find out how to join the listener panel or subscribe to the podcast <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">on the Feedback web page</a>.</li>
<li>Feedback is on Twitter. Follow <a href="http://twitter.com/BBCR4Feedback">@BBCR4Feedback</a>.</li>
<li>The picture shows Chris Moyles and Dave Vitty at the end of their record-breaking 52-hour show in aid of Comic Relief. More <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chrismoyles/longestshow/">on the Radio 1 web site</a>.</li>
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      <description><![CDATA[For many listeners to Feedback, it will be many years since they listened to Radio 1 - if they ever did. That's a problem for us on the Feedback team because we're here to represent the views of listeners of all the national networks. But because it's broadcast on Radio 4 - what happens on that ...]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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    <br><br><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx</a><br><p>For many listeners to Feedback, it will be many years since they listened to Radio 1 - if they ever did. That's a problem for us on the Feedback team because we're here to represent the views of listeners of all the national networks. But because it's broadcast on Radio 4 - what happens on that station is inevitably what we hear about most from you. So how to introduce other networks into the mix without scaring the horses?</p><p>Well prepare for a bit of whinnying because that's what we're trying to do more of - starting with the station you like least - if your comments on the Radio 4 Facebook page are anything to go by. Some of you are very happy with Radio 4 thank you very much. But you might be surprised to know how many people do like to mix and match what they listen to switching - from Today to Fearne Cotton and PM to Scott Mills.</p><p>It's something we discovered as part of the Feedback RadioSwap Challenge when we asked two listeners to swap their favourite radio stations for a week. We launched our call to action on Twitter - which is a good place to start. Follow @BBCR4Feedback.</p><p>Radio 4ophile Heather Dontenville and her Radio 1 loving stepdaughter Jenni couldn't resist. It was a stroke of luck for us that they were both supertechie types and willingly kept other listeners up-to-date with their adventures across the dial. They are both on Twitter and not only that, they willingly uploaded daily audio diaries during the long seven days between Feedback programmes.</p><p>Heather AKA MrsCordial was several days in to self-imposed exile in Radio 1-land when she tweeted:</p><blockquote>"Aha, first international news I've hrd on @BBCR1, Korea+Gay Pride India</blockquote><p>But she also confessed that she was:</p><blockquote>"Really surprised at how many old songs @BBCR1 is playing!"</blockquote><p>And that she'd developed a particular liking for a band called The Wombats.</p><p>Their daily audio diaries were not up to Radio 4's preferred broadcast quality but we used short excerpts of them on last week's programme to give us an on-the-spot insight into how they were getting on.</p><p>Heather mentioned Radio 1's latest social action campaign 'Relationships Week' where presenters talked about everything from dating to divorce. Lots of presenters invited their parents on to their shows with them. Heather particularly enjoyed Greg James's Radio 1 slot which turned into a "bring your Dad to work day".</p><p>And still on parenting, one of the highlights for A-level student Jenni was a discussion on Woman's Hour about Ed Milliband and paternity leave. She also enjoyed a lot of Radio 4 comedy - and The Archers although that was partly so she could trade Borchester gossip for news of last week's number one single.</p><p>For us at Feedback it was a very interesting experiment not only to discover who likes what and why but also to identify a communications divide on the matter. There are many ways to feed back. Emails on the topic were very slow but the chatter on Twitter and the Radio 4 Facebook page was very lively. <a href="http://twitter.com/barkingbabs">@barkingbabs</a> tweeted:</p><blockquote>"Swap @BBCRadio4 for @BBCR1 ? I'd rather swap vital organs!"</blockquote><p>And on Facebook Andrew Stagg said he'd rather walk naked upon the wolf-infested steppes of Kazakhstan with pieces of raw meat dangling from his body than listen to Radio 1.</p><p>Listen to some more of the highlights from Heather and Jenni's interview with Roger Bolton from last week's Feedback. And keep in touch - which ever way suits you.</p><!--#include virtual="/radio/ssitools/simple_emp/emp_v1.sssi?Network=radio4&Brand=blog&Media_ID=feedback25&Type=audio&width=600" --><p>Are you a one-station man or woman or do you like a bit of a mash-up? The RadioSwap has brought lots of younger Radio 4 fans out of the woodwork - should Radio 4 do more to attract them or is the network perfect as it is?</p><p>Feedback is off air now until January 28th but don't forget the programme caters for your views on all of the BBC's national stations. We're hoping the controllers of all of them will come onto Feedback next year so we need to know what you want to hear from them.</p><p><em>Karen Pirie is producer of Feedback</em></p><ul>
<li>On Twitter, Jenni is <a href="http://twitter.com/Smidge_xo">@Smidge_xo</a> and Heather is <a href="http://twitter.com/MrsCordial">@MrsCordial</a>.</li>
<li>Their audio diaries are on Audioboo: <a href="http://audioboo.fm/Smidge_xo">Jenni</a>, <a href="http://audioboo.fm/MrsCordial">Heather</a>.</li>
<li>Jenni's written <a href="http://jenni.dontenville.co.uk/2010/11/25/the-week-i-swapped-radio-1-for-radio-4/">a blog post about the experience</a> - today is day four.</li>
<li>Listen again to this week's Feedback, produced by Karen Pirie, get in touch with Feedback, find out how to join the listener panel or subscribe to the podcast <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">on the Feedback web page</a>.</li>
<li>Feedback is now on Twitter. Follow <a href="http://twitter.com/BBCRadio4">@BBCFeedback</a>.</li>
<li>Picture <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wollombi/307153013/">Horse</a>, by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/wollombi/">Roadside Pictures</a>. <a title="Creative Commons - Attribution 2.0 Generic" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en_GB">Some rights reserved</a>.</li>
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      <description><![CDATA[It started with a tweet. "I will if you will", says Heather. "Wot for a whole week?" says Jenni?  I wonder how many women over the age of 35 would choose to wake up with Chris Moyles every morning. And how many teenagers would swap Judge Jules and Jo Whiley for Jonathan Dimbleby and Justin Webb?...]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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    <br><br><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx</a><br><p>It started with a tweet. "I will if you will", says Heather. "Wot for a whole week?" says Jenni?</p><p>I wonder how many women over the age of 35 would choose to wake up with Chris Moyles every morning. And how many teenagers would swap Judge Jules and Jo Whiley for Jonathan Dimbleby and Justin Webb?</p><p>We appealed on Twitter for two brave souls to give up their favourite stations for a week. Heather Dontenville and her 17 year-old step-daughter Jenni couldn't resist Roger Bolton's Feedback challenge.</p><p>"Ha ha" said Jenni, "You'll have to listen to the likes of Fat Boy Slim now". Heather didn't like to point out that she'd been listening to him since he was the bass player in "the fourth best band in Hull" - years before Jenni was even born.</p><p>On Feedback earlier today, Roger asked them both what they'd miss most during adventures across the dial. Heather a committed news nut wonders how the transition will affect the morning routine. "I'm a little bit concerned, especially first thing in the morning. I'm used to having Today as my backdrop while shovelling Weetabix into my toddler. I'm not sure Chris Moyles is going to do anything to smooth that process."</p><p>And what will Jenni miss most? "The Chart Show with Reggie Yates. I'll have to ask Heather what number one is!" Oh the humiliation. Listen to the item from Feedback:</p><!--#include virtual="/radio/ssitools/simple_emp/emp_v1.sssi?Network=radio4&Brand=blog&Media_ID=radioswap&Type=audio&width=600" --><p>Heather and Jenni will be back on Feedback next week to tell Roger how they got on - that's if they are still speaking to us. In the meantime you can follow their progress on Twitter (follow the hashtag #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=radioswap">radioswap</a>) and listen to their audio diaries on Audioboo.</p><p><em>Karen Pirie is producer of Feedback</em></p><ul>
<li>On Twitter, Jenni is <a href="http://twitter.com/Smidge_xo">@Smidge_xo</a> and Heather is <a href="http://twitter.com/MrsCordial">@MrsCordial</a>.</li>
<li>Their audio diaries are on Audioboo: <a href="http://audioboo.fm/Smidge_xo">Jenni</a>, <a href="http://audioboo.fm/MrsCordial">Heather</a>.</li>
<li>Jenni's written <a href="http://jenni.dontenville.co.uk/2010/11/25/the-week-i-swapped-radio-1-for-radio-4/">a blog post about the experience</a> - today is day four.</li>
<li>Listen again to this week's Feedback, produced by Karen Pirie, get in touch with Feedback, find out how to join the listener panel or subscribe to the podcast <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx">on the Feedback web page</a>.</li>
<li>Feedback is now on Twitter. Follow <a href="http://twitter.com/BBCRadio4">@BBCFeedback</a>.</li>
<li>Picture <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadsidepictures/145257863/">Westinghouse Six Transistor Radio, 1960s</a>, by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/roadsidepictures/">Roadside Pictures</a>. <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/deed.en_GB">Some rights reserved</a>.</li>
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      <description><![CDATA[You'll know Kathy Clugston's voice. She reads the news on Radio 4 (and plays the ukulele). Knowing her as you do, you probably won't be surprised to learn that she's now a star of the Edinburgh Fringe too. She's just returned from a week in Scott Mills the Musical - the unlikely hit that David H...]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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    <p>You'll know Kathy Clugston's voice. She reads the news on Radio 4 (and <a title="John Humphrys ordered Kathy to play the Ukulele on Today" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8094000/8094565.stm">plays the ukulele</a>). Knowing her as you do, you probably won't be surprised to learn that she's now a star of the Edinburgh Fringe too. She's just returned from a week in <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/scottmills/musical/video.shtml">Scott Mills the Musical</a> - the unlikely hit that David Hasselhoff calls "a true story, apart from the facts" - in which she reprises her on-air role: the posh Radio 4 lady. Listen to her exclusive report:</p>
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<li>Watch the whole of Scott Mills The Musical <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/scottmills/musical/video.shtml">on the Radio 1 web site</a>.</li>
<li>Lots more about the adventure in Edinburgh <a title="With a photograph of Vernon Kaye breakdancing and some people dressed up as the A-Team" and href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/scottmills/">on the Scott Mills blog</a>.</li>
<li>Kathy wrote <a title="During 'announcers week' on the Radio 4 blog, May 2009" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/05/being_told_off_by_james_naught.html">about being told off by James Naughtie</a> on the blog earlier this year.</li>
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